Matas/Kilgour to the Chinese Embassy
August 22, 2008
Recording of Telephone Call with Dr. Lu Guoping,
Minzu Hospital of Guangxi Autonomous Region, China
Time of the telephone call:
Audio file (12 MB):
Translation of the Transcription:
*Note: to protect the
caller's identity, the caller's voice has been modified.
Phoenix TV Interview with
Dr. Lu Guoping
This video of
the interview of Lu Guoping was produced in Hong Kong and distributed
by the Government of China
embassies and consulates. The video has official Government of China
sanction. It is impossible to understand the point we are trying to
make by viewing the video in isolation. The video provides evidence in
support of our report only when considered in conjunction with our
audio of the same Lu Guoping.
In our audio, the doctor admits that he and
his colleagues in Guangxi
used to go to prison to select Falun Gong practitioners for involuntary
organ donations which were used in transplants. He refers the caller to
another hospital in Guangzhou which he says has nationwide access to
Falun Gong organs at a "wholesale" price.
In the TV video,
the doctor admits that
he was the person
interviewed in the audio recording but denies, when presented with a
transcript, that he said what our audio records him as saying. Yet, on
the audio, what the doctor denies saying is interspersed seamlessly
with what the doctor admits saying. Once the doctor, in the video,
admits to saying most of what is in the audio, the conclusion that he
said everything he is recorded on the audio as saying is inevitable.
Only through video and the audio in combination do we have the admitted
implication of this doctor and his hospital in Guangxi in the organ
harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners and the hospital in Guangzhou in
the nationwide organ sourcing of Falun Gong practitioners.
English Subtitles of the TV interview:
Video of the TV interview with Dr. Lu Guoping is available upon